Stars and the Glory of the Creator

I'd like to start off this morning's service with a place from Matthew chapter 18 verse 20 for where two or three Gather in my name there am I with them now Jesus Christ is with us in every single one of these services and he does not skip you know we can skip we can have uh certain problems and not make it but Jesus Christ is here every time there's at least two to three people and um you know even in a small group like this we're not the biggest church you know there are churches with th000 members 2,000 members 5,000 50,000 you know um it's just an encouragement to us that even in a smaller Church like this Jesus Christ is still with us you know uh so with that being said let's stand up and praise God and worship His Name Lord God we thank you for this amazing day you've given us this morning Lord and we ask you to fill this place with the Holy Spirit God guide us and lead us in your word Lord in the singing as well God help us to understand what is being spoken to us today Lord and help us uh to to have it touch our heart Lord and to not leave empty-handed God we ask you remain in this place with us God and bless the service in Jesus name we pray amen good morning church we're going to be singing for our first song It Is Well with My Soul [Music] when peace like a r attend my way when s Sorrows like Sea villows Fall whatever my Lord thou H has taught me to sing it is well it Is Well with My Soul It is Well it Is Well with My Soul my soul It is Well it Is Well with My Soul though Satan should off no trials should come BL bless Assurance control that Christ has regarded my heless thing and have shed his own blood for my soul It is Well it Is Well with My Soul my soul It is Well it Is Well with My Soul my S know the Bliss of this glory is done my sin not in part but the whole is still to the cross and I bear it no more praise the Lord praise the Lord oh my soul [Music] It is Well it Is Well with My Soul my soul It is Well it Is Well with My Soul in Lord Hast the day when the faith shall be sigh the clouds be rolled back as a s [Music] the Trump shall ReSound and the Lord shall descend even so it Is Well with My Soul It is Well it Is Well with My Soul my soul it is well it is Is Well with My Soul he is exalted the king is exalted on high and I will praise him he is exalted forever exalted said and I will praise His [Music] name he is the Lord forever is truth shall rain Heaven and Earth rejoice in His holy name he is exalted the king is exalted onl he is exalted the king is exalted on high and I will praise him he is exalted forever exalted and I will praise His name he is the Lord forever is trth shall rain Heaven and Earth rejoice in His holy name he is exalted the king is exalted on [Music] he is the Lord forever his truth shall reign Heaven and Earth rejoice in His holy name he is exalted the king is exalted on all praise God praise the Lord brothers and sisters for this beautiful morning that we can all come together and worship His name and praise His name and hear his word this morning and I just want to read a Bible verse that we can meditate on this morning and that'll be in Psalms 18 verse 1-2 I Love You Lord my strength the Lord is my rock my Fortress and my deliverer my God Is My Rock in whom I take refuge my shield and the Horn of my salvation my stronghold praise God and I also want to announce our program for this morning uh we will have a group of brothers sing us a song this morning and then right after that we will have a guest speaker saying a word for us God bless close [Music] Come Ye siners lost and lonely Jesus blood can make you free for he save the worst among you when he save a w like me and I know yes I know Jesus blood can make the violent Sinner quean and I know yes I know oh Jesus blood can make the viol sinner clean to the Fate he giveth power through the mountains makes a way findeth water in in the desert turns the night to Golden [Music] day and I know yes I know Jesus blood can make the violent sinner green and I know yes I know Jesus blood can make the viess sinner [Music] que he is near thee holds the path of H guides you to the path of safy gives you Grace for every day and I know yes I know Jesus blood can make the viol Sinners Queen and I know yes I know Jesus blood can make the viol sinner clean praise God praise God well good morning so uh I my apologies but I'm back um talk a little bit more about creation today and about the about the differences between God's truth and the common uh secular acceptance of what creation is so uh last time I was here talked a little bit about the very Beginnings right we talked about the Big Bang so I want to I'll start by just recapping that just real quick for a minute and then I'd like to move on to Stars today looking up into the heavens and so so yeah we'll recap that and we'll look at where do stars come from you know between where God says they come from and what the secular version says they come from and then look at some of the problems with the secular reasoning so just to summarize Big Bang I'd like to start with shoe box analy I don't remember if I talked about this when I was here last time but one of the the things that struck home for me that took me from that secular mindset to going back and studying and coming back to coming back to the Lord was my pastor I was in a church not by my own will but because my dad was egging me on to go uh but when I was there the pastor gave me gave us this analogy and uh not sure if it's his or if it came from somewhere else but it really struck home with me and caused me to go study so the analogy is this so you have a shoe box that shoe box is you know that shoe box is empty you take that shoe box close it up knowing that it's empty and you put it up on top of your closet up on a shelf and you leave it there say you leave it there for a few days weeks years decades let's say if you live long enough you live it there there for 500 years or Thousand Years say could leave it there for a million years but you come back to it one day pull that shoe box down open it up and there's something simple Like a Rock in it what is your first assumption did somebody put it there or did it spontaneously combust there and so yeah and my brain went it's not that simple and the funny thing is if you look up most secular authors of the Big Bang the first words out of their mouth is it's complicated which is basically I mean exact same same thing with my brain saying it's simple it or it's not that simple but it really is that simple so kind of what we talked about last time is in the second model of thought at one point some point in time or well before time even existed but at some point there was nothing and then nothing spontaneously combusted something so we're going to go ahead and move forward today and assume let's say the secular model it could happen the way they say and nothing spontaneously combusted something in their model the first thing that really started forming with stars so I'm going to look at stars today and we'll look at both what what scripture says about stars and what secular model says about stars all right so that's so in the beginning so if we look at let's first look at God's model and just a real brief very very brief uh recap of it on the first day God created the Heaven and the Earth right uh this is the point where the Earth is formless this uh the presence of God is hovering over it covering over the Deep um and of course God says let there be light and there is light but now at this point do we understand where is this light coming from right God has not made the Sun the Stars the moon this is God's light at this point on the second day God set a firmament to separate the water from the water so now we're starting to see some form we're starting to see you know the Earth is covered in water we have and he separates water from water so you have oceans you have water on the earth and then you start having water in the atmosphere right he creates us an atmosphere he builds the atmosphere for us we have clouds in the sky so and on the third day God raises the dry land so now we have land coming up from the water we have and vegetation and such so again very very very very fast recap of a lot of stuff in there but fourth day then God said let there be lights in the firmament of Heavens to divide the day from the night and let them be for signs and seasons and for the and for days and years and let them be for lights in the sorry let them yeah let them be for lights in the firmament of the Heavens to give light on the earth and it was so then God then God made two great lights the greater light to Rule the Day and the Lesser light to rule the night he made the Stars also God set them in the firmament of the Heavens to of light on the earth and to rule over the day and over the night and to divide the light from the darkness and God s saw that it was good so the evening in the morning were the fourth day so here it is scripture says God hung the stars in the sky right H the stars out in the heavens um and just in case we need some some reassurances of that we can look at Psalms 83 when I look at your Heavens the work of your fingers the moon and the stars which you have set in place what is man that you are mindful of him and the son of man that you care for him there's a lot more packed into this scripture but I'm just going to use it here to show just more evidence in Scripture that God says I put the stars there one more here Jeremiah 31:35 thus says the Lord who gives the Sun for light by day and fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night who stirs up the sea that is that its waves Roar the Lord of hosts is his name and you know I am very sorry I just realized I got cruising into this I'd like to pray real quick before before I go any further I always want to do that so we could just pray real fast here sorry guys I just got roaring so Heavenly Father we just thank you Lord for this day to be together and to look into your word and father we just ask Lord for your guidance that all the words spoken today are for your will by your will and Lord that we can further your your truth and look past the the inaccuracies of when humans try to change your truth so please Lord guide us and please help us to just see what you would like us to see and in the beautiful name of your son Jesus Christ we pray amen okay sorry about that um all right so God is saying I hung the stars there then I got one more I like to go through this is kind of my favorite being sciencey uh this leads me to a a book in the Bible that I really like so check this first so in Amos 5'8 right uh he who made the Pates and Orion and turns deep Darkness into the morning and darkness and darkens the day into night who calls the Waters of the sea and pours them out on the Earth surface of the Earth the Lord is his name everybody know what pades and Orion is everybody kind of know what those are so pades also known as the Seven Sisters talking about constellations so I don't know how many of you have been through the uh oh man the word just popped out of the the Dome that like at Capitol high school they have the what am I trying to say the planetarium thank you um and you get to they tell all the stories of the constellations right and you have the Seven Sisters out there just a big grouping of Stars Seven Stars uh Taurus the Bull's chasing him down and Orion the hunter is trying to chase down Taurus and save the Seven Sisters and there's a lot more to that story but um so these are constellations that we're talking about right now and one of my favorite things is or one of the things that really brought me back to God was reading job of all all books and that because God actually reveals a lot of things that astronomy secular astronomy secular science discovered later um but God revealed first so this is a couple of them so in in job 3831 says can God asks God is talking to job here and says can you bind the chains of the Pates or loose the cords of Orion seems like a simple enough statement thing with Pates like we talked about pladies or the Seven Sisters is a group of seven stars and it's actually floating through space it's not really attached to a system per se but they're bound to each other by their own gravities so they stay together and now that we have much better instrumentation things that we can study these things we can see that that these stars are bound to each other traveling through space they're different than other stars out there because they're not necessarily part of a system and so God here is revealing you know can you loose the chains can you cause Pates to come apart God is saying they're bound together and science could not have revealed this till long after job's time so uh so here he's he's revealing something that human science doesn't get to understand for quite a while after this also Orion so Orion you can see the constellation there the three belts the three large stars is his belt those three stars are made up of Anam menac or an an anac cluster I can't pronounce those very well but uh and it turns out that those Stars the are the clust Anala cluster is actually moving away from the other two not so fast that we'll ever see it in our lifetime and be able to see it with our eyes you know you're not going to be able to go out there and hold a ruler up to it and see that these stars are moving apart but again with red shift with all the different instrumentations with cemetaries we do understand that those stars are moving apart Orion's Belt is loosening again nothing that J anybody in job's time could have known but God revealed it to us before so that I just throw in there because that's just interesting to me and there's all kinds of things God reveals dinosaurs all kinds of things in job to us that things that we wouldn't have known about uh then in Deuteronomy 4:19 uh God actually offers us a warning about looking to the heavens and this is where I think a lot of where secularism comes from is not heeding this morning God says and beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars all the host of Heaven you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them things that the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven so what we're seeing here is worship the Creator not the creation and I think a lot of secular thought this idea that everything's random chance this idea that we can understand and control everything comes from you know you look up into the into the night sky and it's just beautiful right and there's seems like so much we can learn so much we you want to study and we tend to be drawn to almost worshiping it rather than worshiping the Creator who put it there for us so yes so we must worship the Creator not the creation and naturalism secularism to me comes from worshiping the creation which will bring us to the secular secular thought on this so like we talked about before uh the very left side of that screen hard to read but Peach epic that is the where you have nothing on the far left and in the secular thought some point somehow this little Singularity forms out in the middle of nothing burning at a trillion Kelvin and it swells the size of a peach and goes bang and it starts spewing out a whole bunch of just plasma soup is really what most refer to it as bunch of subatomic particles and over time those particles start to you know as that plasma soup expands it cools right so the trillion Kelvin that this thing was burning at is cooling down and those little particles the subatomic particles are starting to form into things like electrons and protons and neutrons uh and as those form they start to Cluster into atoms uh form simple gases hydrogen helium detarium nitrogen such like that uh that's the same thing so and so then basically what you're having is you're starting to have gases the simple gases form out in space so now on this chart we have moved see that 10 the 32 seconds that's how long it took for the singularity to form and then swell op Peach and explode into that plasma soup then you have 104 seconds of these little particles forming up to adoms and then uh we get about a 100 million years of nothing you just have gases swirling out in into the newborn universe and then of course after that 100 million years you can start to see in the middle of that picture there little twinkles of stars starting to form and that's what we're going to talk about today so after about 100 million years after that peach exploded they believe that stars begin to form and here we'll talk about how they think they form so how does the star form and of course this is according to the secular model secular model says that basically these gases start swirling and condensing so these gases out in space start condensing start coming together all the gas atoms start coming together and they just keep condensing and condensing and condensing getting denser and denser and denser until suddenly they're so dense they collaps and nuclear fusion begins and your star lights up so that being the secular answer so my question to that then is always right away we've got most of those same gases in here in this room how long do you suppose we have to wait before those gases condense and we ignite a star in the middle of this room we have more of those gases here right now condensed Den more than you would out in space right how long will we have to wait for that to happen can it happen do we does anybody think it can happen are those gases going to condense at any point so the problem with that idea is thing called gas pressure which is several different type you know we could dive into that I'm not going to dive too far into it uh but gas pressure so if we inflated a balloon right and you hold this balloon if I if you were holding this balloon you let it go what's going to happen it's Go farting all around the room right if you have that balloon very inflated and you take a pin and stab it what's going to happen most people don't want to cover their ears or a lot of people don't like the sound of that because gas is so explosively trying to get away from itself that that balloon pops makes a loud sound gas flows from a high area of high concentration to low concentration it does not condense itself but this is the going explanation in the secular Universe right now so basically they're saying that all little tiny atoms of gas floating around exerting gravity they all have gravity they're all exerting gravity on each other and that's what pulls them together uh more modern physics actually believes that there is no gravity at the atomic level and smaller but uh they still teach in school that it's the gravity the gas atoms that pulls them together and ignites the star so I'd also like to read so just to give an example of secular ideology here uh I I like to quote a lot of times a guy named Paul Sutter he is a secular columnist a secular Big Bang columnist um and his and one of his uh articles um he says what triggered the Big Bang it's complicated he says this in the extremely early Universe gravity starts to get very important at small scales and this is the the real of quantum gravity the yet to be res yet to be solved Grand riddle of modern physics we just flat out don't have an understanding of strong gravity at small scales I think a better way to say that is we don't understand how there could possibly be gravity at small scales or better yet we know there's not gravity at small scales but we have to go with this because this is the going the only explanation we've got so again you know the the secular world is left with coming up with an answer to this and they do they come up with an answer to how these gas atoms could possibly condense and there's there's about three models they all come from the same place so I'm just going to kind of go over one with you because they all have the same problem um basically they're going to tell you that outside forces are required to condense the gas right that's kind of a well du right when we fill scuba tanks what do we got to have we got have a machine to compress the the oxygen in the tank if we fill propane tanks we've got to have machines to compress the O the propane into the tank so if you want to compress gas you've got to have outside forces you've got to have something to compress that gas so they their their thought is maybe a supernova sends a shock wave that smashes into these gas and hits them so hard condenses them that we have a star light up so makes me wonder so think about that balloon that balloon has already got gas under pressure in it right is it going to ignite a star inside the balloon any faster than a star is going to ignite in this room no what if you pop it no it's going to expand real fast well what if you ran over that balloon with a car what if you smashed it as fast as you could are we going to light a star as soon as you smash it the gas is just going to go and be gone right right doesn't it doesn't ignite into a star and even if you did have if something ignited it if there was something that sparked it and ignited it it's just going to turn into a ball of flame and go out it's not going to condense and collapse and cause nuclear fusion to start so but that's let's just assume for a moment that it could let's let's assume that say you could smash that gas so fast and hard that it would start nuclear fusion there's still a problem where does a supernova come from it comes from a dying star so if it takes a star to cause a supernova or it takes a star to make a new star where did the first stars come from so you're left with this you know one the idea of the mechanism is impossible but two the thing that drives a mechanism didn't exist to start the mechanism so no stars existed the first star couldn't ignite by a supernova because some other star would had to die first so basically the any of the other forces they talk about they all come from a dying star so if it takes a star to make a star then where do the first stars come from but this is just something that in secular science if you ever take courses on Big Bang or astronomy will just gloss over this point kind of like how planets are made but that's another story uh so another little problem with stars and the Big Bang model so in the Big Bang model we are right now there's an estimated 100 billion galaxies which actually the James web telescope if any of you know what that is things that sending back to us right now we actually believe that number to be about double about 200 billion but for the sake of the example I'm going to stick with what's being taught right now there are an estimated 100 billion galaxies each consisting about a 100 billion stars for that many stars to exist in our galaxy in our universe you have to have a new star lighting up every 20 seconds of the 13.8 billion years that they say the universe has existed since the Big Bang so every 20 seconds to have to have that many stars currently 100 billion times 100 billion you'd have to have for 13.8 billion years you'd have to have a star lighting up every 20 seconds um and then if you double that you have to have a star lighting up every 10 seconds right so problem with that being we've seen all kinds of Lights Go Out we've seen stars go out right so with the equipment that we have we can see that what we have not seen proven documented yet is a birth of a new star now things like especially images coming back from the James Lo telescope we see you know gas clouds out in space and we see little twinkles in them and they always get excited you know there's a new star forming in there right in that nebula that's where stars form nebula is the birthplace of stars now nebula is B basically a big cloud of gas right so we always get these new images of a new nebula and we see a little twinkle in it we think oh that's awesome there's the there's the birth of a new star and then some few years later they start once they've really done Telemetry on it and they've looked at Red shift they realize that star has been around it's either right in front of or right behind that nebula so there's still not definitive proof of a new star lighting up and yet they have to be lighting up every 20 seconds to be to have as many stars as we think we have and again if the James web is really telling us if we're reading what we're getting back from the James web telescope right then it should be more like every 10 seconds a new star forms and we're not going to see them all form right because some of them are out there far enough that we just can't see them but we should see something some new stars at some point and we have not yet so Psalm 1474 reminds us that God determines the number of stars and he gives to all of them their names that is how we have as many stars as we have so out of stars form you according to God's truth it's pretty simple then God said let there be lights in the firmament of the Heavens to divide the day from the night and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years and then and them be for lights in the firmament of the of the Heavens to give light on the earth and it was so the only really explanation is God hung them there and there's just no good human derived explanation of this uh and of course one of my my favorite Psalms 191 the heavens declare the glor declare the glory of God and the firmament shows his handiwork so then I want to talk a little bit about because if you start talking to a secular person about this they're going to bring up something called The Starlight problem anybody ever heard of the Starlight problem so this is what the first thing that they went to combat creationist with Starlight problem basically says this that we look out in the night sky and pick a star and now we have been able to because through Telemetry through looking at Red shift of light coming to us we have pretty good estimations of just how far away those stars are and let's say we look at the star and it's 10 billion light years away from us so everybody understand a Lighty year a Lighty year is how far light travels in one year right so if a star is 10 billion light years away from us then the idea is that light from that star would take 10 billion years to get to us we wouldn't see it until 10 billion years after it lit up so if we can see a star that's 10 billion light years away well then we know that the Universe has to be at least 10 billion years old and according to scripture we're more like 6,000 years old um so this then does this cause a problem for us but turns out there's actually a problem with their thinking so one the speed of light has now been shown to not be constant we've been going along forever thinking the speed of light is a constant we've been treating it like a constant it is not we have actually slowed the speed of light in lab in a lab we can slow the speed of light then theoretically you should be able to increase the speed of light as well right um and in this again this is a much bigger conversation you know they use things like relativity and space the fa fabric with space time and whatnot to talk about how things go faster because it's going to turn out they need things to move a lot faster than the speed of light for the for their model to work um so you know if light's not a constant then one who's to say it couldn't get to us two if God created it would not God have created it all in already functioning already having the light reaching Us in creation so um but also if there was a Starlight problem then you have to recognize something called The Horizon problem this is what creation is fired back with Horizon problem is basically this let's say it's night time we look out that way we find a star that's 10 billion light years away from us and then we look that way and we find a star that's 10 billion light years away from us now you have 20 billion light years of space between these two stars so but the universe according to the Big Bang model and for reasons hopefully I'll get to today pretty much has to be 13.8 billion years old so how do you get if we're only 13.8 billion years old how do you get stars with a distance of 20 billion Lighty years between them you know you could say that maybe we're at the center of the universe but the big bangang model doesn't believe that because our solar system didn't light up until about 4 and a half billion years ago so the universe existed for 9.8 billion years before our solar system came into existence so we can't be the center and even so we find Stars we think that are 20 billion Lighty years that way and 20 billion light years that way so we've got 40 billion Lighty years between and so but if if Mass can only move at the speed no faster than the speed of light then how could the universe have traveled 40 billion light years in 13.8 billion years so if you accept that Starlight has to travel at the speed of light you also have to accept that mass cannot travel past the speed of light and so if you have a Starlight problem you also have a horizon problem so if secular argument uses the Starlight problem then they're only given half the story they're not recognizing the problem they're creating for themselves um and again secular answer then is well SpaceTime and relativity and again bigger subjects than I can get into here today but you know should those things be correct they also solve our Starlight problem and it you know basically for the secular model the thing to think about is you need there's a they they say there has to be a period of Rapid expansion we know that the Universe has to have grown faster than the speed of light at some point for the secular model to be accurate right so secular model is trying to find that mechanism by how the the heavens how this How the Universe could be stretched out so fast so much faster than it should be physically possible um so they're looking for their mechanism of Rapid expansion they just call it rapid expansion SpaceTime and relativity and things like this are their theories trying to or their ideologies trying to prove How the Universe spread out that fast God's pretty clear about how the universe spread out that fast I made the Earth and and created a man on it it was my hands that stretched out the heavens and I command their all right yeah I command all their host I stretched out the heavens there's how you get your staright there's how you get your your Universe bigger than what physic basically should be God stretched it out and again in Jeremiah 10:12 it is he who made the Earth by his power who established the World by his wisdom and by his understanding stretched out the heavens Zechariah 12:1 the burden of the word of the Lord concerning Israel thus declares the Lord who stretched out the heavens and founded the Earth and formed the spirit of man within him there's actually a lot of verses if you just uh if you look through Scripture A lot of times God saying I stretched out the heavens he's the one that made them as big made the universe as big as it is we have no physical explanation natural explanation for it so uh moving pretty quick here so I can go through some of the James web telescope stuff does anybody anybody heard of the James web telescope is a pretty cool thing actually um so the James web make sure I get these dates right was launched in December 15th of 2021 it is now sitting at its lrange point so lrange Point basically being it is out there in space in a position quite a ways from us I forget the exact miles 1.5 million kilometers out in space away from the Sun and its orbit around the sun basically matches Earth's orbit so it's staying in the shadow of the Earth as it orbits around the Sun um so that that filters out the light noise the pollution from the sun right the light pollution so that it can see way out into space and actually the background of this slide is a is a photograph that comes from the James web um and part of this if you look at this Photograph you see some of these galaxies that are out there the the colors of them that are red as we've studied those closer looked at Red shift and whatnot what we're discovering in those galaxies you know we've we've developed this what we think is a life cycle of a galaxy we think we know about how long it takes for a Galaxy to kind of light up get going and fizzle out right and a lot of these galaxies that we're seeing for the first time seem to be much more advanced in that life cycle than they could possibly be in 13.8 billion years so now the James web is throwing us back conflicting information um because n James Webb is saying we're seeing stuff out there that's got to be older by secular standards by our Astron astronomy standards these Galaxies have got to be older and much further away than they should be so yeah so basically the James web the idea of it is it's supposed to be looking at about about 14 billion light years away from us so they're think it's seeing like the beginnings of our universe right because if it's looking at 14 billion years billion light years out our universe supposedly started 14 billion years ago so we're looking at the part of the universe that first you know that started up the universe so sorry um these are some of just the photographs that I thought were kind of cool that James web sent back of nebulas new nebulas that we've discovered and you'll see in some of those little little sparkles and those are the kind of things where um I even saw on the news I think something from Boise State where they were all excited that they saw these little sparkles in these nebulas and they had to be new stars being born um again they've seen this before so I'm sure in the next couple years we'll actually hear that or we won't here they just won't say anything but these were stars that actually existed either in front of or Behind These nebulas so what information has has James web given us so far so one rather than 100 billion galaxies we now estimate there to be about 200 billion galaxies out there there because now that we're seeing farther and we're seeing we're actually our telescope is shielded from sunlight we're seeing a lot more detail we're seeing a lot more galaxies and now we have to estimate that there's something more like 200 billion galaxies out there in our universe that's that is our observable universe I can't get into that today but there's a difference between our observable universe and what they really think the full universe is because now we're estimating the full Universe to be like 90 billion Lighty years in diameter and if you only have 13.8 billion years for that to form and you know even going through relativity SpaceTime it's a stretch to think you could have a universe that big even if those things are real in 13.8 billion years so but what we're discovering is there's a lot more galaxies out there than we thought there were and this provides a problem because the current model can't support that uh and also these galaxies like I mentioned before a lot of these galaxies seem to be much further in their life cycle than they should be in 14 billion years so a lot of these galaxies look like by our big bang standards they're much older than the 14 billion years they've had to mature so bottom line is the James web is telling us this is a much bigger place and if you accept uh secular standards a much older place than we think it is so the 13.8 billion years that we say the universe has been around is there any anybody understand why it's got to be 13.8 billion years Cosmic microwave background you guys know anything about that so Cosmic microwave background is it's it's basically this it's pretty complicated thing but basically remember how the peach The Singularity that formed the go to go bang they figure was burning at about a trillion Kelvin so when that explodes all this material that's going out into the universe out into the nothingness to make a universe is about a trillion Kelvin and as it expands it's going to cool down as it turns out there is a temperature in space so if you measure the temperature in space now is it 2.5 2.7 I think I wrote it in there somewhere uh 2.7 yeah it's about 2.7 Kelvin so that's pretty much absolute zero zero Kelvin is absolute zero uh an absolute zero to us is still pretty much a uh how do you say it's it's a theory we can't quite achieve it we've got big machines that get really really close to it but we have not achieved absolute zero temperature absolute zero would basically be you're nothing so theoretically it's got to exist out there but physically we haven't really got there so uh but anyway space is Cooling and for space to have cooled to the point where it is about 2.7 Kelvin would take if their trillion Kelvin uh temperature was correct for the beginning 13.8 billion years so there's where we get our really rather precise number and they look out you know what the cosmic makeway background with instrumentation they can see kind of a almost a snapshot when that when the Big Bang went off and everything started spreading out they say photons would have also spread out that left basically a a photo imprint on the universe that with the right instrumentation we can look at and and so it's one of those things that was discovered accidentally they like to say they were looking for it um I I've seen arguments both ways that they were looking for it and then arguments to say no they just found it and then they said they were looking for it but um but basically if that is for that to be accurate the universe has to be 13.8 billion years old now that James web is telling us that's not correct that if we apply our standards our secular standards to what we see from the James web it has to be much older or perhaps it was created a God by a god already functioning and already there and time doesn't matter right but we can't you can't go there as a secularist so uh so again kind of what I've already talked about if you want to if you want to apply secular standards to the age of the universe the age of the universe has to be much older than what their evidence says it is um and so and so uh if you want to apply SEC if you apply secular standards it actually starts to prove them wrong um and they they it's circular logic so wrap here up here last last thing is just reminder from Isaiah 45:12 I made the Earth and created man on it it was my hands that stretched out the heavens and I commanded all their host the only explanation for what we see today what we that we have is God is a Creator the secular explanation does not hold water so that was my presentation for today yes yes so all right thank you oh yes uh Heavenly Father we just thank you Lord for this time this time to look into your creation the truth of your creation uh and make sure that we're not being swayed by the the lies and the inaccuracies of man trying to come up with their own story so we thank you God and we we ask you Lord just for your direction and for for your strength to go on through the day and just remember and and feel safe and relaxed in your truth Lord in the beautiful and loving and glorious name of your son Jesus Christ Our Savior all these things we pray amen amen and for the last song we're going to be singing I worship you almighty [Music] God I worship you Alm Mighty God there is none like you I worship you oh Prince of Peace that is what I long to do I I give you praise for you are my rightousness I worship you Alm Mighty God there is none like you I worship you Alm Mighty God there is none like [Music] you I worship you oh Prince of Peace that is what I long to do I give you praise for you are my rightousness I worship you Alm Mighty God there is none like you I worship you Alm Mighty God there is none like you I worship you oh Prince of Peace that is what I love to do I give you praise for you are my rightousness I worship you Alm Mighty [Music] God there is none like you [Music] praise God my dear friends thank you Jim for coming and um it's for sure uh a lot of information but uh Zach pointed out in Matthew how uh the star was so important that like it even showed uh that Jesus came uh birth of Jesus and God showed it in a form of a star and sometimes I'm like how did people even know that wow there's a bright star that means there's something big you know um but of course you know people that that maybe study this stuff they know this you know and we and we're like well it's a star you know uh we were looking at some stars and I see one like flying I'm like oh look it's it's a shooting star but it turns out to be uh the the uh Tesla telescope thingy and they're everywhere when you look up they're literally you see one moving there one moving there you're like wow this is incredible but yeah well um once again thank you for coming Jim and we would be happy to have you back um and we'll after service go to the gym and we'll uh continue our talk and stuff like that and there will be some coffee and some uh breakfast but if anybody has any needs let us know if not then we'll praise our god let's pray Lord God we thank you Lord for the message that was spoken today Lord and the worship songs Lord God praising your Holy Name Lord God Lord You Lord God you reveal in many different ways to many people Lord God the Stars the dinosaurs Lord God and people come to you Lord Jesus and We Want to Thank You Lord God in this message God that you that you spoke to somebody today Lord God and may it open up our hearts Lord how wonderful you are you created all of this Lord God and you created all of this for us Lord thank you so much for being such a good God in Jesus name we pray amen Our Father in heaven Hallowed Be Your Name Your Kingdom Come your will be done on Earth as it is in heaven give us this day our daily bread forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us lead us not into temptation but Deliver Us from the evil one for your kingdom your power and Glory forever are yours amen amen be blessed